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Generation & Transmission Losses.

Are they really this bad. So let's make it a gas, man.

  • Harry Macdonald: 
     

    A lot of nonsense here - but that is no surprise.

    1. gas prices are rocketing, true but because the marginal electricity is entirely gas generated any increase in gas prices will increase electricity prices as well so you are stuffed either way.
    2. gas boilers banned in 2030 no, it is new gas boiler that are banned. (maybe). Installing an efficient condensing one now makes a lot of sense for the next 10 years

    Britain has limited gas storage capacity compared to many other European countries. North Sea gas production has fallen due to maintenance shutdowns and Covid limitations.

    There is low wind output at present due to calm weather.

    Aging nuclear reactor power stations are not helping as they have to shut down for maintenance.

    Many gas and coal plants are out of action due to maintenance needs.

    C.F. Industries, a fertiliser maker has shut down due to high gas prices.

    Z.

     

     

     

     

  • Chris Pearson: 
     

    broadgage: 
    Solar is about 20% but sunlight is free

    Wind about 50% but wind is free.

    Yes, but how do the capital costs compare?

    This is where it gets interesting.

    There is no way these subsidised generation techniques would exists in any large scale due to the capital costs.

    Back in 2002 we were well on our way to achieving co2 reduction using gas turbines and developing small scale nuclear, proper engineering, until the greens took control. This new tech is far from green and who's going to maintain and decommission them in the future. I guess we'll all be paying. And all for what exactly?

    Sea levels are rising at 1.3 mm per year in a straight line. The planet is a nice place to live even with 1.5 degree increase. 

    CO2 levels are fine, no problem, the science says so.

  • Just a pity Nuclear, as yet, has so many problems of great magnitude. Without those problems it could be our salvation.

    The only reasonably reliable ting in this world is tidal range (Oh and deaths and taxes)

  • ebee: 
     

    Just a pity Nuclear, as yet, has so many problems of great magnitude. Without those problems it could be our salvation.

    The only reasonably reliable ting in this world is tidal range (Oh and deaths and taxes)

    It's a pity the investment in small scale modular reactor  development stopped 20 years ago. We're now 20 years behind!

    If the green's hadn't got in the way our engineers would have small scale modular reactors installed in most towns. Surely the greenest energy man can make!

  • Jon Steward: 

    If the green's hadn't got in the way our engineers would have small scale modular reactors installed in most towns. 

    Even if the greens had been the most enthusiastic advocates of such technologies, we still wouldn't have had them.

  • Harry Macdonald: 
     

    A lot of nonsense here - but that is no surprise. . . 

    I agree 100%. A lot of the rubbish designed to sell newspapers, few real facts. 

    Regards,

    Alan. 

  • wallywombat: 
     

    Jon Steward: 

    If the green's hadn't got in the way our engineers would have small scale modular reactors installed in most towns. 

    Even if the greens had been the most enthusiastic advocates of such technologies, we still wouldn't have had them.

    That is one of the problems. The nuclear industry has never been good at public relations. The scaremongering by the press regarding nuclear is impressive in both its volume, lack of accuracy And technical knowledge. Unfortunately the UK government have taken the same side, instead of promoting and encouraging a safe and reliable method of generating green energy. 

    Regards,

    Alan. 

  • Parliamentlive.tv - Industry and Regulators Committee

    Dr John Constable is absolutely correct here.

  • North Sea gas production has fallen due to maintenance shutdowns and Covid limitations.

    Is a bit of a simplification, and really only applies to the last year or so, while our own gas production has been falling for far longer, as the more easily tapped reserves are exhausted.

    To prop up our gas habit we are bringing in increasing quantities from abroad, including tankers from places like Qatar, as well as via pipeline from the continent. 

    For a while we were using the Rough field (really an underground salt cavern) as our largest store, and filling it in summer to run it down in winter to tide over the period that production did not meet demand. Unfortunately in the last few years it has developed a number of leaks, and had to be shut.  Periodically there is talk of trying to get it back into a useable state, but being 27km off the Yorkshire coast and km down makes fixing it tricky/expensive.  

    The practical upshot is that we have never been more dependant on other countries for our gas supplies.

    This is not new, and was predicted years ago, as this rather telling, if dated graphic shows.

    I'll try and find a newer one.

     

    Mike.

     

     

  • Our Government backs plans for 60GW of wind turbines by 2030. Currently, wind is  costings tax payers 10 Billion quid a year. Expect massive costs in electricity shortly.

    Meanwhile we have gas reserves ready to be fracked out from below our feet. If only we dare too, or the greens are put into the naughty corner.