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CE mark after Brexit

If spotting dodgy imports of dangerous light fittings etc was not already hard to do, and quite contentious, it seems that after Christmas, as well as CE documentation, we may be expecting to find UKCA or maybe UK(NI) marks depending where you live, as of course anything coming in from Europe will now count as an import, and the person bringing or mail ordering it into the UK will become responsible for the import paperwork.

 link    I predict getting spare parts for non UK made equipment via a legitimate route may get a bit harder than it currently is.
  • along with the dropping of the -EN from the BS numbers.

    Are you sure? I thought the EN approach was a result of our membership of CEN/CENELEC rather than the EU.


       - Andy.
  • Sparkingchip:

    I have been toying with the idea of buying myself a reasonably inexpensive "silent" compressor to use at home in my garage, the stocks in the UK are virtually nil, but the one I was thinking of getting is available for delivery from Rimini in Italy. This is the way life is at the moment with internet orders being delivered to the UK from all over Europe and being covered by one CE mark.


    Isn't it wonderful! I have had car parts from as far away as Rumania, but usually Germany for a fraction of the price at the main stealer; and delivered promptly. Currency and borders aren't an issue. I don't want to see it change.




     


  • I don't think they will change much Chris. The EU doesn't want to lose our trade of imports, which are much greater than our exports, particularly in manufactured goods. To fail to come to agreement seems to be stupid beyond measure on their part, and their objections are clearly aimed at controlling us rather than trade. If they don't agree then they will lose the large export market for cars, wine, vegetables, bacon etc, all of which are cheaper from elsewhere. They want to stop our financial services, but that will die the death as London is the largest money shop in the world, and there are not many other places to go, possibly except New York, but they like Americans even less than Brits, so that won't happen!
  • "there are not many other places to go, possibly except New York, but they like Americans even less than Brits, so that won't happen! "


    David Lad, no one dislikes Americans more than us (that`s even before trump became their clown)
  • MHRestorations:

    Ridiculous farce, this whole brexit thing. A few people get to wave a flag (probably the wrong one, or upside down)... and the rest of us deal with the fallout.  No the EU isn't perfect but... UGH, it's less imperfect than this.


     


    Well said MHR.


    Brexit was ridiculous (that comes from someone who was totally outraged by Ted Heath taking us into EEC in the first place without ref to us the people)


  • davezawadi (David Stone):

    The CE mark has always been a problem to everyone. I had a case some years ago where a company had to replace ALL its compressed air equipment because it didn't have a CE mark (it was older than the CE mark, but otherwise fine). The pressure vessel inspector couldn't fault anything except the lack of the mark, but the insurer said it was essential! Good riddance I say, particularly as it apparently means China export, and I try to avoid many of those.


    Isn't the replacement UKCA mark effectively "same thing, different badge"?


    We might also just be about to discover how much of the EU "loony legislation" actually originates from the UK, but I suppose it will go through one less layer to get there.


  • gkenyon:
    davezawadi (David Stone):

    The CE mark has always been a problem to everyone. I had a case some years ago where a company had to replace ALL its compressed air equipment because it didn't have a CE mark (it was older than the CE mark, but otherwise fine). The pressure vessel inspector couldn't fault anything except the lack of the mark, but the insurer said it was essential! Good riddance I say, particularly as it apparently means China export, and I try to avoid many of those.


    Isn't the replacement UKCA mark effectively "same thing, different badge"?


    We might also just be about to discover how much of the EU "loony legislation" actually originates from the UK, but I suppose it will go through one less layer to get there.




    The vast majority of our consumer legislation comes from EU. To be fair to all member nations, it has to be the same for everybody. The CE mark may be faked or otherwise abused, but it is for the benefit of all of us.


    The point here is that if the consumer legislation is watered down, who benefits? Is it the businesses or the consumers? 


  • My recollection of what it was like before the UK joined the EU seems to be different to those of other people. 

    Nostalgia ain't what it used to be, or something along those lines.
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  • For those who think a bit bigger than household appliances.


    There’s a sentence David might find interesting “However, CE Marking does not apply retrospectively. So, any products manufactured using the BS EN 1090 standard before the 1 July 2014 can still be legally used and sold after the 1 July 2014.”