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Genetic Memories: Can the memories of your ancestors be imprinted in your DNA?

Even though I already have a ton of hobbies to fill my time during the COVID 19 lockdown, I’ve recently taken up yet another new pastime and have been researching my family tree. This has thrown up a few spooky coincidences as well as a few surprises along the way…


I’ve always considered myself to be a London girl. I was born in London and moved to North Hertfordshire during my childhood. But London has always been in my blood and it’s the one place in the world where I feel ‘home’. 


Although my childhood was spent mainly around North London, I’ve always had a fondness for Greenwich and for many years now, whenever I’m asked where I would live in London (if I could afford to that is) then I’ve always said Greenwich although I’ve never been entirely sure why.  I love Greenwich Market, the park, the maritime museum and the view of London from the top of hill next to the Royal Observatory. I’ve always had an interest in the Prime Meridian and stargazing too so I guess it's where quite a few of my interests get wrapped up all in one place.


So imagine my surprise when I discovered that my great-grandmother was born in Greenwich and that my great-great grandparents owned a shop there in Trafalgar Road! Spooky eh? 


It does make me wonder if there is such a thing as 'Genetic Memory' where memories can be passed down through the generations via our DNA. Could this be the reason for that ‘déjà vu’ feeling we get sometimes when we go somewhere we’ve never actually been before or why we feel a particular affinity to a place or a time period?


Is it scientifically possible that our experiences are, over time, somehow imprinted into our genetic makeup which can then be passed down through subsequent generations?
  • lol .....................

    When as a young child I ask my mother where I came from, besides the obvious answer, she said that all of my ancesters on one side of the family lived in large houses and used to dump in the corners...well fancy that!

    Legh
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    I'm pretty sure there is no genetic memory - if there was, we'd have developed a way to pass on knowledge - but evolution shows us that each generation has to learn everything again from the beginning


    We arrive, soaking wet, and blinking in the light, some stranger slaps us on the ***, and it goes downhill from there.


    When we shuffle off this ball of clay, that's it - end of story


    I've got family ancestors buried across the globe from Valparaiso to Gaza city, several in the North Atlantic, and a few scattered across a fair bit of Europe, North Africa and beyond  - usually as a result of a bit of unpleasantness going on at the time.


    I feel no affinity with any of the places - not least my hometown


    Regards


    OMS
  • Lisa Miles:

    Is it scientifically possible that our experiences are, over time, somehow imprinted into our genetic makeup which can then be passed down through subsequent generations? 


    To some extent, yes.  It was long thought impossible, but studies of people and experiments on animals say otherwise. See https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190326-what-is-epigenetics


  • Thanks Simon Barker‍ that's a really interesting article and worth a read.

    OMS‍ I think it 's only a possibility for direct descendents through the maternal and paternal lines and not members of the extended family. So far I have found around 300 people in my family tree but not all of them are directly related through the blood line.


    I think genetics is a fascinating subject but I also believe that 'nurture' plays a larger part than 'nature' when it comes to forming someones general personality, behaviour and identity.
  • I read somewhere that the sins, and presummably the blessings, of the fathers are passed onto the second and third generation.

    Legh
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    OK - fair point, Lisa - I was thinking along the lines of the 7 daughters of Eve, so we should have (currently) a 1 in 7 chance of sharing the same genetic memories received over many generations in the DNA.


    But that can only happen via a DNA transfer, up to the point of conception - any memories of your great great grandma, after the point of conception of her daughter couldn't feasibly be passed on  - and so on, and on and on to you - so unless she owned that shop before her daughter was born, what memory of it was there to transfer.


    Nature and nurture is a whole different argument - studies of separated twins is quite interesting, but on the whole, people are good, bad or indifferent regardless of the influence of either or both.


    I think I tend to dispute the "sins of the fathers" business as a principle, but certainly the stigmas may continue for many generations


    Regards


    OMS
  • " I think I tend to dispute the "sins of the fathers" business as a principle, but certainly the stigmas may continue for many generations

    "

    Maybe the stigma is part of the ongoing curse? Who knows.

    I thought I'd chase this one up  and discovered that I was wrong. It should have read third and fourth generations not second and third.

    This saying has been kicking around for over 4K years, long before humans awareness of DNA, which seems to suggest  awareness of the human condition from elsewhere.

    I thought this study gave a reasonable explanation.

    https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/how-god-visits-sins-on-the-third-and-fourth-generation


    Legh
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    Mmmm - that looks like the ramblings of someone who believes in sky pixies, though


    What do alternative sky pixies have to say about things ?


    Regards
  • OMS:

    Mmmm - that looks like the ramblings of someone who believes in sky pixies, though


    What do alternative sky pixies have to say about things ?


    Regards


    Lol ... sky pixes?  ?


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    Other descriptions for your mythical entity of choice are available, Legh


    Regards


    OMS