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SNIPF - Ingénieurs Professionnels de France-Vers la reconnaissance d’une « Certification Ingénieur » en Europe.

Posted by Luciano Bacco on Jun 16, 2019 6:43 am

La SNIPF, propose la « Certification Ingénieur » au travers de son organisme de certification (Norme ISO 17024) La SNIPF existe depuis 1936 et son expérience au regard de la « Certification Ingénieur » est indiscutable.
La validation des compétences acquises tout au long de la vie professionnelle d’un individu est inéluctable. La certification est l’outil qui permet cette reconnaissance.

https://www.snipf.org/evenements/evenement/163-reunion-pleniere-au-siege-du-cni-a-rome
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Re: SNIPF - Ingénieurs Professionnels de France-Vers la reconnaissance d’une « Certification Ingénieur » en Europe.

Posted by Luciano Bacco on Jun 16, 2019 10:44 am

Not in this Country (ITALY) where you are not allowed to call you as an "Ingegnere" ( Engineer) without a recognized academic degree and also have successfully passed the prescribed purely theoretical State Examination: Practical Experience counts nothing in this context!...
So I was quite surprised in finding in this "venture" also the Italian CNI ( Consiglio Nazionale Ingegneri-The Italian Engineering Council). So I firmly think that in the short term everything will conclude as nothing was done! CNI 
docet!...
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Re: SNIPF - Ingénieurs Professionnels de France-Vers la reconnaissance d’une « Certification Ingénieur » en Europe.

Posted by Luciano Bacco on Jun 16, 2019 11:05 am

Moshe Waserman CEng:
I remember the now-closed SPE UK used to publish their reciprocal agreement with SNIPF.

Here is a translation:


The SNIPF offers the "Engineer Certification" through its certification body (ISO 17024 standard) The SNIPF has existed since 1936 and its experience with regard to the "Engineer Certification" is indisputable. 
Validation of skills acquired throughout an individual's professional life is inevitable. Certification is the tool that allows this recognition. 

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Re: SNIPF - Ingénieurs Professionnels de France-Vers la reconnaissance d’une « Certification Ingénieur » en Europe.

Posted by Luciano Bacco on Jun 18, 2019 6:33 pm

You are quite right!
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Re: SNIPF - Ingénieurs Professionnels de France-Vers la reconnaissance d’une « Certification Ingénieur » en Europe.

Posted by Luciano Bacco on Nov 27, 2019 1:04 pm

But what do you think about this move?!
https://twitter.com/SNIPFofficiel/status/1136006939056492544
 
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Re: SNIPF - Ingénieurs Professionnels de France-Vers la reconnaissance d’une « Certification Ingénieur » en Europe.

Posted by Luciano Bacco on Dec 4, 2019 8:52 am

More about SNIPF and SPE(UK):
https://www.snipf.org/l-association/historique
http://www.ssiap331.fr/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Pourquoi-la-certification-des-competences.pdf
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Re: SNIPF - Ingénieurs Professionnels de France-Vers la reconnaissance d’une « Certification Ingénieur » en Europe.

Posted by Luciano Bacco on Dec 4, 2019 11:15 am

Yes! Many Italian Peritoes (Industrial Experts) and Surveyors were ( and are even now ) accepted in the SNIPF Ranks- some of them were also Members / Fellows of the " dead" SPE(UK).

Like this,for example:

"Professional Engineer PEng(UK), SPE of Guinea Wiggs, Regno Unito n. A10824 dal 2016

Ingènieur IPF, SNIPF Societè Nationale Ingènieurs, Francia n. 26254 dal 2016

MI, IESF Société des Ingènieurs et Scientifiques Francia, membre n.U11-1043 dal 2016

Industrial Engineer, Commissione Europea, Direttiva 2005/36/CE"

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Re: SNIPF - Ingénieurs Professionnels de France-Vers la reconnaissance d’une « Certification Ingénieur » en Europe.

Posted by Luciano Bacco on Feb 5, 2020 9:21 am

This is the most accredited and recognized Professional Engineering Entity in France and internationally -including by the UK Engineering Council, I think.
https://repertoire.iesf.fr/certificat-inscription
https://repertoire.iesf.fr/
https://www.ingenieurs-scientifiques-npdc.fr/Qui-sommes-nous/IESF---Qu-est-ce-que-c-est/Mission/
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ing%C3%A9nieurs_et_scientifiques_de_France

https://www.engc.org.uk/international-activity/international-relationships-map/






















 
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Re: SNIPF - Ingénieurs Professionnels de France-Vers la reconnaissance d’une « Certification Ingénieur » en Europe.

Posted by Luciano Bacco on Feb 26, 2020 3:00 pm

The “French engineer”

One pecularity of France is the system of “Grandes Ecoles”, which is quite unique.

In most countries, engineering degrees are provided by universities, within the ordinary university system. In France, all the main ministries (industry, transport, telecommunications…) maintain and fund their own specific engineering schools, so-called “Grandes Ecoles”, apart from the ministry of higher education which runs the universities. These engineering schools are meant to form the elite which will later become the higher executives of the ministries, and of public enterprises. There is even the ENA (Ecole Nationale d’Administration) which is meant to form the next generation of higher public servants and politicians (our current president, Emmanuel Macron, is a former ENA student).

The “Grandes Ecoles” receive a much higher funding per student capita that the universities receive. As a consequence, all the brightest students after high school are attracted to these “grandes écoles”, instead of going to the university, which is considered a second choice. Grandes Ecoles are selective, contrarily to universities which are obliged by law to accommodate any high school student who succeeds at the “Baccalauréat” (more than 88% do). Students usually have to take two years of preparatory training before applying to the entrance examination of Grandes Ecoles. Training in Grandes Ecoles is much more demanding than in universities, especially during the two preparatory years, where training, especially in mathematics, is quite intense.

Students who have gone through the preparatory years, and later have integrated universities in the USA or elsewhere.  usually find the teaching level to be much less demanding than what they where trained to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipl%C3%B4me_d%27Ing%C3%A9nieur
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Re: SNIPF - Ingénieurs Professionnels de France-Vers la reconnaissance d’une « Certification Ingénieur » en Europe.

Posted by Luciano Bacco on Feb 26, 2020 3:18 pm

More:
https://www.aqpe.org/signatura-de-lacord-entre-aqpe-i-snipf-pel-reconeixement-mutu-de-les-certificacions-denginyer-professional/?lang=en
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Re: SNIPF - Ingénieurs Professionnels de France-Vers la reconnaissance d’une « Certification Ingénieur » en Europe.

Posted by Luciano Bacco on Feb 26, 2020 5:43 pm

???!!!
https://charteredengineer.nl/professional-registration/professional-titles/
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Re: SNIPF - Ingénieurs Professionnels de France-Vers la reconnaissance d’une « Certification Ingénieur » en Europe.

Posted by Moshe W on Feb 26, 2020 7:05 pm

Het Koninklijk Instituut Van Ingenieurs (KIVI) is de beroepsvereniging van ingenieurs in Nederland. Alle ingenieursdisciplines zijn vertegenwoordigd binnen KIVI.

The Royal Institute of Engineers (KIVI) is the professional association of engineers in the Netherlands.
All engineering disciplines are represented within KIVI. 
A group of more than 20,000 highly-skilled engineers from various fields, at various career levels. KIVI offers the largest platform of fellow engineers in the Netherlands. Colleagues that you can consult directly online via the digital membership book. KIVI members who can act as sparring partners, coaches or as a source of information.

They have criteria for registration. From what I see 100 registered engineers are currently listed in their register.


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Moshe Waserman BEET, MCGI, CEng MBCS, FEDIPAdvPra, MIET.

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