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Electric Cooker with Gas Part.

A customer is having a new all electric cooker delivered today. I installed a new consumer unit and cooker connection point yesterday. A local retailer will not connect up a new cooker if the connection is not simple and straightforward. The old cooker is to be scrapped. The retailer has been known to take a new cooker away after refusing to connect it. The lady of the house is sorry to see the back of the old cooker, I suppose that that is why she was cleaning it yesterday.


Z.
  • Grumpy:

    That is so Zoom. But if you intend to leave it disconnected, such as replacing your cooker with an all electric, then you should install a plug.


    That sounds very sensible. Better than just sealing the end up with chewing gum.


  • as available from all good gas suppliers for traditional bayonet...  also in   micropoint   from the same place but in both cases not a gas seal as such , more of a keeping it clean on the mating surfaces so when you need it again in a year or ten, it's not full of greasy fluffy unidentifiables.
             

    I have no connection with BES other than as a customer, and a shameless linker to their web images

    M.
  • Zoomup:

    I thought that the bayonet type gas connectors were self sealing. Isn't a blanking plug as bad as socket covers?


    Nearly. All that the valve needs to do when an appliance is removed is to prevent most of the gas escaping for a short while. A blanking plug would be like having an appliance connected, which would be long-term.


    It's a bit like the valves on your car tyres. They provide a temporary seal whilst you adjust the pressure, but what keeps the air in is the dust cap. That is why I prefer metal ones, although I did have a problem recently with corrosion of the valve stems. ?


  • Chris Pearson:
    Zoomup:

    I thought that the bayonet type gas connectors were self sealing. Isn't a blanking plug as bad as socket covers?


    Nearly. All that the valve needs to do when an appliance is removed is to prevent most of the gas escaping for a short while. A blanking plug would be like having an appliance connected, which would be long-term.


    It's a bit like the valves on your car tyres. They provide a temporary seal whilst you adjust the pressure, but what keeps the air in is the dust cap. That is why I prefer metal ones, although I did have a problem recently with corrosion of the valve stems. ?




    But Chris, Chris old mate, isn't a car dust cap a bit small for the kitchen cooker gas point?


    Z.


  • mapj1:

    as available from all good gas suppliers for traditional bayonet...  also in   micropoint   from the same place but in both cases not a gas seal as such , more of a keeping it clean on the mating surfaces so when you need it again in a year or ten, it's not full of greasy fluffy unidentifiables.
             

    I have no connection with BES other than as a customer, and a shameless linker to their web images

    M.


    So chewing gum would do as well, or a plastic sandwich bag and a rubber band. But string would last longer at the gas fitting around the plastic bag.


    Z.


  • This'll do the job. ?
  • Chris Pearson:
    This'll do the job. ?


    And..................if the plastic sandwich bag is tightly bound by string around the gas pipe it will inflate like a bladder if the valve leaks gas. An automatic indicator.


    Z.


  • And I suspect it is folk with those sort of approaches that got us landed with the Corgi and then Gas Safe register of approved persons in the first place ?.

    Though much like part P it is hard to see what it has actually achieved for safety, and how much would have happened anyway, as it looks like the accident rate was falling steadily when it came in in 1991, and afterwards it carried on falling at about the same rate for a few years, and then levelled off. Things like CO detectors and the introduction of room sealed water heaters instead of open flued ones are at least as useful as a registration scheme.


    M
  • Why waste money? Here is a DIY gas fitting cooker kit for Joe Public to install.

    Natural Gas Cooker Fitting Kit - 1200mm / 4ft Cooker Hose - Safety Cooker Chain - Bayonet Socket - Gas PTFE Tape: Amazon.co.uk: Large Appliances


    Idiot Joe Public:


    Question:
    We specifically wanted an LPG kit but hoses states not for use on LPG on arrival - is the company being called LP supplies causing Amazon confusion.

    Answer:

    Hi, The description states the gas hose supplied is for Natural Gas. Kind Regards, LP Supplies

    By LP Supplies Ltd SELLER  on 29 July 2015

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    Z.