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Smoke alarms, are they appropriate.

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Part of the communal areas of purpose built sheltered housing flats on three floors with a lift that has a full monitored fire alarm system, that closes the internal fire doors and opens the exterior doors when activated. 


Each individual flat has a heat alarm in its hallway connected to the communal alarm system and also has an Aico interconnected smoke and heat alarm system that is connected to the intercom system allowing the call centre to monitor them and speak to the tenants to ask why they have been activated. 


Can you think of any justification for installing very basic domestic battery operated smoke alarms in the communal areas?


Because I cannot think of any way their installation can be justified, particularly as they will not be monitored in any way and should not be required. 


Andy B
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    The battery smoke alarms are a new addition to an apparently sophisticated part one fire alarm system that has been in place for some years.


    Andy Betteridge.
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    So the battery alarms are a recent addition that`s been added before you saw it and not a propsed addition that you`ve been asked to add or approve?

    As Mapj1 says the where perhaps a temporary part mitigation whilst the main system was down to some extent say over a weekend or so, in that case the intention might have been to remove them at a later date or perhaps even a case of not doing harm so we leave `em in . Perhaps even future proofing for next time there is a down situation. Just guesses though
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    Two unconnected thoughts:-


    1) Was the person who authorised the battery alarms aware of the part one fire alarm system being in place?


    2) Surplus money towards the end of a financial year in a budget which if not spent a) will indicate that the budget is too high, resulting in a lesser amount the following year, and b) cannot be carried over to the following year?


    Clive
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    Can see a gent head n base in the pic looks like an addressable system in the common areas?

    regards Ts
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    Can see a gent head n base in the pic looks like an addressable system in the common areas?

    regards Ts




     

    Along with door closers on the flat doors and magnetic holders on the corridor doors that are connected to the alarm system, all monitored by the call centre.


    The part one fire alarm system seems as sophisticated as they get, yet someone seems to think it needs the battery alarms to supplement it.


    Andy Betteridge
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    I have the feeling that there is a unresolved problem that needs urgently dealing with. 


    Andy Betteridge
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    Well I hope you get to the bottom of it Andy (and inform us of the outcome). Where you given any history? How did you come by this install, have you been asked to work on it or inspect it?
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    Much more basic than that. 


    My dad lives in a second floor flat and it appears that the communal area fire alarm system does not work.


    Andy Betteridge

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