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Important Information! After the SPE(UK), the UK SEE (Society of Environmental Engineers) dissolved!

Posted by Luciano Bacco on Dec 1, 2019 8:03 am

https://cdn.ymaws.com/socenv.org.uk/resource/resmgr/images/lb_logos/see_round_logo_hi_res.png

https://www.engc.org.uk/news/press-releases/pr2019/society-of-environmental-engineers-to-close-registration-options-for-members/

https://www.ciwem.org/news/engineering-council-society-of-environmental-engineers-(see)-update

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Environmental_Engineers

https://professionalengineeringukandothertopics.wordpress.com/2019/09/26/the-legitimate-uk-society-of-professional-engineers-speng-uk-is-no-more-in-existence-a-reminder-14-august-2019-latest-updating-22-september-2019-dont-forget/

It is a my personal opinion that in the years to come (within the 2020-2030 decade) most of the smaller UK engineering Inst, and Soc. shall be destined to disappear and only the most prestigious will remain but in turn they shall be forced to amalgamate in order to validly face the fierce challenges before us!
 

Re: Important Information! After the SPE(UK), the UK SEE (Society of Environmental Engineers) dissolved!

Posted by Luciano Bacco on Dec 1, 2019 3:59 pm

Timeline of all UK Engineering Inst. and Soc. dissolved since 1854 to our days

  • 1854 Society of Engineers (SoE) founded
  • 1884 Junior Institution of Engineers founded
  • Date unknown Junior Institution of Engineers renamed the Institution of Mechanical & General Technician Engineers (IMGTechE)
  • Early 20th century Association of Supervisory Electrical Engineers (ASEE) founded
  • 1928 Cumann na nInnealtoiri (The Engineers Society) is founded in Ireland
  • Early 20th century Institute of Engineers and Technicians (IET) founded
  • Mid 20th century Institution of Incorporated Executive Engineers (IIExE) founded
  • Mid 20th century The Institution of Electronics and Radio Engineers (IERE) founded
  • 1965 Institution of Electrical and Electronics Technician Engineers (IEETE) founded, incorporating ASEE (with support from the IEE)
  • 1965 The Society of Electronics and Radio Technicians (SERT) founded by amalgamation of IERE with Radio Trades Examination Board (RTEB). SERT then supported RTEB renamed as the Electronics Examination Board (EEB)
  • 1969 A number of Corporate Members of the Society of Engineers founded on the 27 October 1969 The Society of Professional Engineers (SPE) that maintains a register of Engineers who have proved their competence and can be accurately described as Professional Engineers and who on Registration can use the designation "P.Eng.";
  • 1969 The Institution of Civil Engineers and Cumann na nInnealtóirí merged to form the Institution of Engineers of Ireland, now known as Engineers Ireland.
  • 1978 The Institution of Technician Engineers in Mechanical Engineering (ITEME) founded (with support from IMechE)
  • 1982 The IMGTechE and ITEME merged to form the Institution of Mechanical Incorporated Engineers (IMechIE)
  • 1982 IEETE renamed the Institution of Electrical and Electronics Incorporated Engineers
  • 1990 IEEIE and SERT merged to form the Institution of Electronics and Electrical Incorporated Engineers (IEEIE)
  • 1998 IEEIE, IMechIE and IET merged to form the Institution of Incorporated Engineers in electronic, electrical and mechanical Engineering (IIE)
  • 1999 IEExE merged with IIE
  • 2001 IIE granted Royal Charter and renamed The Institution of Incorporated Engineers
  • 2004 Inst.of British Engineers(IBE) wound up
  • 2005 EEB wound up
  • 2005 SoE absorbed into IIE
  • 2006 IIE and IEE (Institution of Electrical Engineers) joined together to form the IET (Institution of Engineering and Technology).
  • 2018 SPE absorbed into IET
  • 2019 The Society of Environmental Engineers (SEE) wound up
Source :  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Engineers_UK#Timeline
 

Re: Important Information! After the SPE(UK), the UK SEE (Society of Environmental Engineers) dissolved!

Posted by Roy Bowdler on Dec 2, 2019 10:31 am

It is my personal opinion that in the years to come (within the 2020-2030 decade) most of the smaller UK engineering Inst, and Soc. shall be destined to disappear and only the most prestigious will remain but in turn they shall be forced to amalgamate in order to validly face the fierce challenges before us!

Luciano,

This seems a likely direction of travel, simply because of economies of scale and changes in technology as new specialisms emerge and older ones decline. The original basis for almost all Professional Institutions or Learned Societies in the UK, was a wish to create a club of like-minded or similar people to share and promote common interests.  This has been a particularly strong part of “British” culture for centuries and is also common elsewhere in democratic or “capitalist countries”.  They could have been organised by governments, or as business propositions, either for profit, or not for profit. A number of more recently formed or growing groups have sought recognition by Engineering Council and some of them used SEE as an existing license holder to offer professional registration. It seems that this work wasn’t sufficient to sustain SEE financially and it has had to close. 
      
I should also note that the roles of Trades Unions or Trade Associations was historically similar and overlapping. So when I was a member of one the institutions that you listed, it was in effect a “division” of a Trades Union, sharing office overheads etc. The current constitution of Engineering Council states requirements for affiliation thus;   it is not a trade association and is not, in the opinion of the Board, engaged (as a principal part of its activities) in activities carried on by trade unions or employers organisations;

A quick google found this statement; There are more than 185,000 registered charities in England and Wales. The number is rising by 5,000 a year (The Guardian).

An example of a similar type of organisation that I passed the examinations of and was a member of (IIRSM- at the request of my employer) is this. “Founded” by one person https://www.britsafe.org/about-us/press-releases/2014/founder-james-tye-is-remembered-by-the-bbc-s-one-show/

For a light-hearted competition, can anyone beat me?  I first joined a Professional Engineering Institution in 1982 and have only ever been a member of one at any time (although I have been in other types of institution). The list is IEETE, IEEIE, ASEE, IIExE, IIE, IET. Only one of these was an active change on my part, the rest were changes by the institution. The first one was only short, as the name change was planned as I joined.                     


 

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