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Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

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Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Nouman Abid Chuhan on Mar 6, 2019 11:25 am

Hi All

The IET is a multidisciplinary Professional Engineering Institution. 

I have noticed that there is a dedicated site for the Electrical Discipline named "IET Electrical" covering the UK National Standard for Electrical Installations BS 7671 and all relevant information.  It is another debate whether the BS 7671 is followed by other countries of the world or not.  It is not my topic now.

Likewise, I would like to suggest that there may be dedicated sites for other disciplines of Civil, Mechanical, Electronics, Chemical, Aerospace etc.  

Looking forward to your opinion/comments, please.

Thank you.
N A Chuhan B.Tech-Hons HND PE.Tech IEng MIET - Islamabad

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Simon Barker on Mar 6, 2019 1:23 pm

I think that's largely a legacy of where the IET came from.  To a large extent, it's still the old IEE (electrical engineers) under a different name.  The proposed merger with the IMechE (mechanical engineers) never happened, and there are still separate institutions in the UK for all the different specialisms within engineering.  So the IET is mostly IEE, merged with the IIE (incorporated engineers) and the IMfgE (manufacturing engineers).  See the diagram https://www.theiet.org/media/2608/iet-family-tree.pdf

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Alasdair Anderson on Mar 6, 2019 1:36 pm

Simon,
Fully agree, but the IET do promote themselves as the only multidisciplinary PEI so we should perhaps expect this to be more than an advertising claim. As an electrical engineer (and originally a member of the IEE before it became the IET) it is not something that I had particularly thought about, but now that Nouman has raised the point I have to admit that I think he is right.
Alasdair

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Roy Bowdler on Mar 6, 2019 2:39 pm

As a regular reader and contributor to these forums, from a mainly electrically orientated technical background, including as a part of that portfolio the wiring regulations, I’m enjoying the discussions recently moved here. However, I would also enjoy reading more about some other disciplines where I have at least a working understanding.  Obviously a forum can only raise subjects for further thought, but that is still useful.  

I had hoped that IMechE would join with us and there was talk in well informed circles about ICE considering the option back in 2005. I’m also partly mechanical, get invites to some IMechE events and some local networks organise joint programmes anyway. I have been a member of safety management and manufacturing management professional bodies, was close to CIBSE, have worked with civil, surveying and other construction professionals etc. Some readers will be joint members and The IIE pioneered the multidisciplinary approach, including at chartered standard, for those who go back that far.  

I don’t think that it makes sense for effort to be duplicated and I’m aware of ongoing discussions about closer collaboration to share knowledge between the major institutions. Engineering Institutions should in my opinion all be “one family”. Unfortunately that is where the problem arises, because sibling rivalries and petty squabbles are endemic in families!   

If there is an implied criticism that the IET isn’t doing enough to ensure that specialist interest groups thrive and have access to the knowledge resources that they need to sustain them, then we should accept that criticism. I became involved with the Built Environment Sector Panel when this was established some years ago, but I don’t know how well this has engaged with those members with an interest? It certainly drew in voluntary contributions from a wide spectrum of experts, not just “electrical types”.  I have encountered some world-leading expertise among our members in fields as diverse as Structural Engineering and Cyber Security , but sufficient critical mass of voluntary contribution is needed to make a meaningful difference. The dilemma in resource allocation from where I see it, is about partnering with others, just tapping into their expertise, or developing our own capabilities?  We certainly don’t want to sacrifice our existing strengths and pre-eminence.          

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Nouman Abid Chuhan on Mar 8, 2019 5:17 am

Alasdair

Thank you very much for admitting my subject point.


Roy

We are not discussing other institutions

We are talking about only the IET and its multidisciplinary aspect according to its Charter. 

Can you share us the statistics here that discipline wise how many IET Members exist till date, please?

There should not be a question of duplicate.  Please don't confuse my subject with this word duplicate.  The IET should give enough space (in the form of dedicated websites) to other disciplines like Mechanical, Civil, Electronics, Chemical, Aerospace etc. to prove that the IET is treating equally all the disciplines at its platform.  So a Mechanical Engineer/Technician, Civil Engineer/Technician, Chemical Engineer/Technician could join the IET as Member proudly.

Let the other institutions work in their own domains and the IET should work in its own domain which is really a broader domain.  The IET is not just a PEI for Electrical Engineers, Technologists and Technicians but for all disciplines.

I don't want to end this debate until the IET caters for it.  As an IET Member, it is my right.  Otherwise, remove the word multidisciplinary by amending the charter of the IET, please.   
N A Chuhan B.Tech-Hons HND PE.Tech IEng MIET - Islamabad

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Alasdair Anderson on Mar 8, 2019 9:46 am

Nouman,
I have looked further at this and the "IET Electrical" section of the website is aimed at BS 7671 (The wiring regulations) and is therefore very specific - not electrical engineering as a topic. I therefore don't think your criticism is valid but rather that the title of that section of the website should be changed. All other areas of the website are discipline neutral.
Alasdair

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Nouman Abid Chuhan on Mar 8, 2019 10:02 am

Alasdair

My subject proposal can also be taken as a "New Idea" as well.
N A Chuhan B.Tech-Hons HND PE.Tech IEng MIET - Islamabad

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Lisa Miles on Mar 8, 2019 10:19 am

Alasdair got there before me.... 😊

The IET Electrical Excellence section of the IET's website is an area dedicated to help and support Electricians (i.e. those responsible for the installation and maintenance of electrical wiring installations in domestic, commercial and industrial premises) and not Electrical Engineers as a whole.

We already have a number of 'special interest groups' in the form of our Technical and Professional Networks (TPNs) who have both a physical presence in the way of the events the volunteer committee organise, and also an online presence within this online community We already have an Aerospace Network for example.

Lisa
Lisa Miles - Online Community Manager, Engineering Communities

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Nouman Abid Chuhan on Mar 8, 2019 11:15 am

The IET website has a dedicated area to help and support Electricians only

The IET website has "Special Interest Groups" in the form of TPNs


Above two statements are noticeable. 

If the IET is generalising it's all content at its website by covering all kind of disciplines then why an area is dedicated for Electricians.  It is not fair. 

The IET TPNs at the IET website is mostly covering a few Specific Topic (subject) Areas but not all areas.  is there any TPN for Civil and Chemical for example.  is it fair?

My point is that, when a student, apprentice, technician, engineer or technologist of any discipline of Engineering and Technology open the IET website, for example, if a civil engineer opens the IET website, instantly he or she must be attracted towards his or her specific area of discipline, i.e. a dedicated website or webpage of civil engineering and Technology. Where he or she could be persuaded to get the IET Membership through the content of his or her interest.  Obviously, he or she would not be interested in Electrical content.  It would be the answer of his or her first question "why should he or she as the civil engineer should get the IET Membership and what is for him or her in the IET".  

Same can be thought alternatively that what would be the impact when a civil engineer (a potential member) opens the ICE website; what would be the impact when a mechanical engineer (a potential member) opens the IMechE website.

Likewise, if the IET, as multidisciplinary PEI, could succeed to design its official website in such a way that if any kind of engineer or technologist opens the IET website, he or she must have the same impact as he or she is visiting the IMechE or ICE websites.

Come on!  give the feel to existing and potential IET Members of various disciplines "A Professional Home for Life".
  
N A Chuhan B.Tech-Hons HND PE.Tech IEng MIET - Islamabad

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Roy Bowdler on Mar 8, 2019 1:54 pm

Nouman, I’m sympathetic to your point. 

If your feedback is that; the IET’s stated aspiration to be a “Professional Home for Life for Engineers and Technicians” (who come in great variety) isn’t being fully realised, then that is fair. As a former IIE member I’m certainly disappointed that much of the unifying vision that it had developed and then brought into the IET has ebbed away. The IEng “problem” being perhaps the most obvious example, Manufacturing Engineers (merged 1991) might also complain.  

However, before anyone jumps to blame the IET. Any organisation can only operate in the social, political and market environment that exists around it. It is also very easy to we wise with the benefit of hindsight. The IET is a large and influential body, but it doesn’t control professional engineering in the UK or even dominate the parliament of institutions that is Engineering Council.  However, it is an element of what some would describe at “the establishment”, consisting of senior academics and high status engineers, who control access to recognition as a Chartered Engineer. Something similar exists in the UK for most long-standing Chartered professions.  Naturally each organised profession desires its members to be held in “high esteem” or be of “high status”, especially the older major ones.  There has been significant growth in the number of chartered professional bodies and more recently chartered ones tend to be less concerned about relative status. Some draw much more heavily on employment practice, rather than academia as engineering does. I won’t pursue this “academic versus vocational” argument here, that is in another thread about apprenticeships.

If The IET was equally adept in all specialisms, then other more specialised Professional Institutions might die. Some have niche activities that allow them to survive and thrive, but few have strong finances. I don’t think that The IET should behave like a monopolistic business, because we are a charitable body established for public benefit. I don’t think that we should be a narrow elite and snobbish club either, for exactly the same reason. Although some other professional societies seem to be tolerated by the charity commissioners despite exhibiting such tendencies, presumably on the basis that they convey at least some benefits as “learned societies”.

If the specialist interests of different types of members are not being adequately served, then I agree that we should do something about it. Web pages would probably be a relatively low cost solution, but the IET web presence is already complex.  How do we ensure that quality content is available not just some marketing material giving a misleading impression. 

An obvious source of content is other institutions and organisations.  Perhaps we should redouble our efforts to collaborate with Academic and Corporate Partners, other professional bodies etc? However “there is no such thing as a free lunch” so priorities and budgets have to be set.  

In looking at The IMechE website recently I came across this http://www.imeche.org/news/news-article/imeche-in-canada---expansion-and-collaboration  I don’t know if any Technologists would be welcomed? I hope so because it would seem sensible and I’m fond of Canada, but clubs can be notoriously cliquey. For example, I had feedback some time ago from one of our IEng registered members in the UK who was made to feel unwelcome, when a CEng registered friend invited him to a retired Engineer’s Luncheon Club. Humans are tribal by nature.   



 

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Cheong Tsoi on Mar 9, 2019 1:18 am

Dear Roy,
It is an interesting topic!
I wonder if The IET has any information on the nos. of Civil Engineers, Mechanical Engineers and Chemical Engineers to join The IET as CEng MIET.
Another interesting topic will be: will The IET talk again to ICE and IMechE about merging together to form a mega Institution in the UK?
I understand that talks had been done in 2005-2006, but now it is 2019, and after around 13 years, things have changed!
BREXIT is coming to an end very soon, will the mega Institution help The UK become stronger again?

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by John Sim on Mar 9, 2019 10:50 am

Cheong Tsoi:

BREXIT is coming to an end very soon, will the mega Institution help The UK become stronger again?

Brexit is a disaster for Britain.   It's telling foreign businesses with a presence here to pack up and leave.   It's putting blocks in to British businesses from selling to their customers in Europe.   Less revenue, means less demand for engineers, means less jobs.   There's nothing good about Brexit.

Put an engineer in as PM and they'd have killed off Brexit long ago.

Sadly, the person we have in opposition only wants to be PM himself and is pro-Brexit.   It means we have no opposition.
 

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Cheong Tsoi on Mar 11, 2019 7:22 am

BREXIT. Do you want a hard BREXIT or a soft BREXIT?
What's the latest news for BREXIT?
Look at the good side, The UK can be more control of its country and afterall about half of its population think that way!....:-)

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Alasdair Anderson on Mar 11, 2019 8:30 am

Nouman Abid Chuhan:

The IET TPNs at the IET website is mostly covering a few Specific Topic (subject) Areas but not all areas.  is there any TPN for Civil and Chemical for example.  is it fair?

I think the situation is that a TPN needs to be proposed but also needs a volunteer to help run it. If someone were to propose a Civil and Chemical TPN and be willing to organise it then I don't see why it wouldn't take off.
Alasdair

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by John Sim on Mar 11, 2019 8:51 am

Cheong Tsoi:
BREXIT. Do you want a hard BREXIT or a soft BREXIT?

No Brexit.   I want Brexit stopped. 

What's the latest news for BREXIT?

Brexit is continuing to damage the country with companies like Nissan stopping investing in future models here.   Honda announced a closure of their factory in Swindon, even though they had parts on ships heading to the UK to start converting the plant for electric vehicles.   Airbus have warned they will have to withdraw from the UK.   Banks have already moved trillions of investments out of the UK.

When these companies stop investing in new model production there is only one future - closure.   With it goes British jobs, and the wealth they create.   Brexit is going to leave the UK poorer.   Worst affected will be ordinary working people, and often in some of the poorest areas of Britain.

But that's not even considering the SMEs who trade with Europe.   Putting up barriers between yourself and your best customers is never a good idea.   It's hard enough for businesses to get customers, never mind giving them the problems of Brexit to deal with too.
 

Look at the good side, The UK can be more control of its country and afterall about half of its population think that way!....:-)

We were never not in control of the country!   That is part of the BS the Leave side have spouted, and too many gullible people believed it.   They thought they would get an extra £ 350 million per week to spend on the NHS (our health service) but Brexit has already cost the UK far more than our membership fee (of which we got most back for farm subsidy payments).   The UK had equal representation in Europe as any other member country.   We had our own commissionaire and the EU also votes them in to position - all done fairly by the people we vote in to represent us - our MEPs.

Brexit has a foundation of lies and deceit.   You can't build anything on such unsafe foundations.
 

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Lisa Miles on Mar 11, 2019 10:22 am

Alasdair Anderson:

I think the situation is that a TPN needs to be proposed but also needs a volunteer to help run it. If someone were to propose a Civil and Chemical TPN and be willing to organise it then I don't see why it wouldn't take off.
 
Absolutely correct Alasdair. 👍

If a group of members want to volunteer and set up a TPN on any technical subject then they simply need to send in their proposal to the IET Communities Team at communities@theiet.org and discuss their proposal with the Community Development Manager David Houssein‍ 🙂

 
Lisa Miles - Online Community Manager, Engineering Communities

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Nouman Abid Chuhan on Mar 11, 2019 10:29 am

Hello All

Can you leave the topic of BREXIT for the subject thread, please?

We are not discussing the merger of the IMechE and ICE or any other PEI with the IET, please.  We are talking about the projection and involvement of all kind of Engineers and Technologists in the IET. 

The IET website must be all disciplines oriented website.  TPNs depends on the IET Members.  The IET Members (both national and international) depend on the Content of the IET website which is a Gateway.  The IET website must reflect all disciplines of Engineering and Technology, prominently.  So that a potential and existing IET Members could be persuaded to get and be an IET Member, respectively.

The major webpages (tabs); Introduction to IET, Membership of IET, Registration of ECUK,  Volunteering for IET and Scholarships & Awards etc., are quite well but discipline-specific pages must also be an essential part of the IET website.  Otherwise, only to display the Electrical content would not be fair enough.          
 
N A Chuhan B.Tech-Hons HND PE.Tech IEng MIET - Islamabad

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Simon Barker on Mar 11, 2019 11:43 am

Nouman Abid Chuhan:
Hello All

Can you leave the topic of BREXIT for the subject thread, please?

We are not discussing the merger of the IMechE and ICE or any other PEI with the IET, please.  We are talking about the projection and involvement of all kind of Engineers and Technologists in the IET. 

The IET website must be all disciplines oriented website.  TPNs depends on the IET Members.  The IET Members (both national and international) depend on the Content of the IET website which is a Gateway.  The IET website must reflect all disciplines of Engineering and Technology, prominently.  So that a potential and existing IET Members could be persuaded to get and be an IET Member, respectively.

The major webpages (tabs); Introduction to IET, Membership of IET, Registration of ECUK,  Volunteering for IET and Scholarships & Awards etc., are quite well but discipline-specific pages must also be an essential part of the IET website.  Otherwise, only to display the Electrical content would not be fair enough.          
 

The mergers, or lack thereof, are important.  When the IET was created, it was intended to become the big multidisciplinary engineering institution.  But nobody except the IIE actually joined in.  Not the mechanical engineers, civil engineers, chemical engineers or whatever.

So the IET could set up sub-pages for all the other disciplines.  Then it could hope to sign up new members, before they realise that there are other institutions that cover their specialism, and that almost nobody else in the IET has any knowledge of what they do.

Or the IET could just give up pretending otherwise, and admit that it is really still the institution for electrical and electronic engineers.

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by John Sim on Mar 11, 2019 11:59 am

Nouman Abid Chuhan:
Hello All

Can you leave the topic of BREXIT for the subject thread, please?

It would certainly be worth having a separate thread for Brexit.

Staying on your subject, I would have to agree with Simon above.   The IET has tried to be a general-catch-all for engineers and has failed.   Worse, it has lost focus on it's core members.   Now the output from their social media is almost exclusively to promote STEM in schools and female engineers.   Neither are bad, but not at the exclusion of male engineers or electronic and electrical engineering in general.   That is, what the core values of the IET should be.   If you didn't know who the IET are then you'd think it was for "Institute of Elementary Teaching".

I would support Simon's suggestion that the IET should stop pretending and return to representing electronic and electrical engineers.
 

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Roy Bowdler on Mar 11, 2019 2:28 pm

I don’t have any accurate data about what fractions of IET members would self-identify themselves as specialists and how narrowly they might draw the boundaries of this specialism.  This article attempts to explain some of the background from the 19th century growth, leading to three major families of Engineers then many more https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_Council  In addition to those who hold an Engineering Council license they are many more specialist interest groups, in the UK or with a worldwide remit.  

An exercise was conducted a few years ago to help match the expertise of our volunteer registration assessors, more closely to members applying for registration. Even after simplification there were dozens of “domains” in which registered IET members had significant expertise and that doesn’t include the many who don’t choose to register with Engineering Council, but have relevant expertise.  We should also understand that we are not “cloning”, so a recent engineer or technician may possess very different attributes to an earlier model.  Think Mini Cooper and Vauxhall Viva. The duty of senior professionals is to understand and respect current practice, not prescribe what others should be doing on the basis of their own experience, which is the opposite to innovation.    

It cannot be denied that the capability of the IET and its members is not evenly spread, but it is very wide.  Many specialist disciplines just blend some fundamental engineering principles or practice in different ways, so Engineers can often change specialism if they need to for career reasons. Most engineers who progress their careers into more senior management need a working understanding of specialist work, so that they can synthesise expert advice and make more strategic decisions. Many apprenticeships and graduate development schemes , offer a general grounding first , before people choose to specialise or even to remain more general. 

In my opinion The IET should not mislead its members, prospective members or anyone else about its capability or expertise (aka “pretend”). However this is no reason for it to abandon its inclusive proposition and keep working towards strengthening it.  Although I don’t have detailed data I’m confident from my experience of IET members that very many of them explicitly desire a broader proposition.

I’m sympathetic to any long-standing members who feel that the emphasis on their specialism has weakened. However there are others that I’m even more sympathetic too since demand for their expertise has declined or disappeared, such as anything related to Coal (in the UK at least) and other once ubiquitous major industries in large parts of the country.  

Nouman raised an important issue, but as see it not one that can be resolved by factionalism.

I note that The Permanent Way Institution has recently gained a registration license and I wish it ongoing success. There are significant numbers of Engineers and Technicians employed in that area of work, which should allow it to remain viable into the future. Institution  Mergers came about to offer critical mass and many specialist members of the IET would have nothing like the service that they get without being part of a larger “federation”.

Numerous voluntary organisations and businesses only sustain as long as the enthusiasm of an individual or small group. Looking forward, surely whatever we achieve it we will be stronger if we built any special interests onto a strong sustainable foundation of shared interests. As the overspill of national and supranational politics into this forum illustrates, we live in divisive times. What unites us is far more important than that which divides.    


 

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Nouman Abid Chuhan on Mar 11, 2019 3:44 pm

As a Community Volunteer, when I delivered my presentations on introduction to the IET several times, i always highlighted that the IET is a multidisciplinary organization and that any kind of engineer, technologist and even technician may join the IET.  My discipline is Electronics but i always encourage to other disciplines to be a member of the IET.  Unfortunately, when they explored the IET, they were not convinced.  Instead they were tending towards IMechE and ICE.  

It is not enough to just write "the IET is a multidisciplinary PEI".  The IET has to prove and show up that they are an international multidisciplinary PEI.

Otherwise, the IET may get amend their Charter and their name as like IEEET (Institution of Electrical and Electronic Engineering and Technology).  At least, i will never quote this word "multidisciplinary" in my presentations. 

You know, i have not any one example to show that yes, this civil engineer or this mechanical engineer is a member of the IET.  In fact, all are Electrical and Electronics.  Its a very serious issue but i am afraid that the IET is taking is very light.  The top management of the IET must look into it or should i send an email to the IET President or IET Secretary and CEO?

  
N A Chuhan B.Tech-Hons HND PE.Tech IEng MIET - Islamabad

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Julie Hudson on Mar 12, 2019 11:01 am

I'm not an engineer, but I do know a few :)

Do engineers even think of themselves as an electrical engineer, civil engineer, mechanical engineer etc. any more? Are engineers themselves more multi-disciplinary and the IET is trying to reflect that?
Julie Hudson | Local Network Manager | The IET

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by John Sim on Mar 12, 2019 11:11 am

Do engineers even think of themselves as an electrical engineer, civil engineer, mechanical engineer etc. any more? Are engineers themselves more multi-disciplinary and the IET is trying to reflect that?

Put it this way, would you want an electronics engineer building a bridge?   Would you expect a mechanical engineer to design a circuit for you?

We may consider ourselves as engineers as a global catch-all, but we have very different areas within engineering that we need representation and support in.   Even within those broad macro descriptions there's micro detail that specialises us further.

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Lisa Miles on Mar 12, 2019 12:03 pm

John Sim:

We may consider ourselves as engineers as a global catch-all, but we have very different areas within engineering that we need representation and support in.   


Which is why the IET already has a number of Technical and Professional Networks all run by volunteers in order to provide support for engineers within specific disciplines. Aerospace, Railway, Automotive and Road Transport, Cybersecurity, Communications, Power Generation, etc etc. 


 
Lisa Miles - Online Community Manager, Engineering Communities

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by John Sim on Mar 12, 2019 12:17 pm

Lisa Miles:


Which is why the IET already has a number of Technical and Professional Networks all run by volunteers in order to provide support for engineers within specific disciplines. Aerospace, Railway, Automotive and Road Transport, Cybersecurity, Communications, Power Generation, etc etc.
To find the TPNs you've got to select the fifth menu option, "Get Involved", then the second option in the boxes presented of "Communities", and then a further sub-menu where finally you see the TPNs mentioned.   Then you've got 21 options.

It's certainly well hidden.
 

Re: Creation of IET (Web) Sites for Disciplines like Civil, Mechanical, Electronics etc.

Posted by Lisa Miles on Mar 12, 2019 12:41 pm

John Sim:

To find the TPNs you've got to select the fifth menu option, "Get Involved", then the second option in the boxes presented of "Communities", and then a further sub-menu where finally you see the TPNs mentioned.   Then you've got 21 options.
 

Or in this online community, in the menu bar along the top, 'Communities' and then 'Technical' from the drop down menu. 
 
Lisa Miles - Online Community Manager, Engineering Communities

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