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IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Bryan O'Neill on Jan 31, 2011 7:41 pm

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IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Bryan O'Neill on Jan 31, 2011 7:41 pm

All,

Has anyone used the IET mentoring service, having previously worked for a largish organisation I had a mentor, with a brief was to provide guidance on professional development and CEng matters but given the pressures of the working environment time for this role was at a premium.

Given that I have recently moved jobs and the company is much smaller, and doesn't provide a mentoring service. I am considering using the IET Mentoring service, does anyone have any experience as a mentee, is it worthwhile.

http://www.theiet.org/careers/mentoring/iservice/

Thanks in advance

Bryan

IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Nicky Tooley on Feb 3, 2011 9:25 pm

Hi Bryan

Thank you for your post about the Mentoring service.

I'm Nicky Tooley, i'm responsible for the voluntary Mentoring service within the IET.

If you have any questions then please do not hesitate in emailing me on the following email address - mentoring@theiet.org

Kind regards

Nicky Tooley

IET Mentoring Service

Posted by on Mar 1, 2012 6:55 pm

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IET Mentoring Service

Posted by James Ben Brown on Mar 1, 2012 7:42 pm

Kingficer,

I have an IET mentor at present and the help/guidance/support I have recieved on my route to professional registration has been excellent.

I did have to change the first mentor assigned to me by the IET as their background (armed forces) was completely different to me and I found it difficult to try and draw on his personal experience to help me through my registration. However, after contacting the IET to let them know, I was then assigned a mentor from my hometown who had a very similar background and the help so far has been fantastic.

To give you an idea, I hadn't documented any of my work over the last 5 years so was having to start from scratch. From the point I was assigned a mentor to my actual PRI date was no more than 9 months or so.

Also, the advice from local PRAs is excellent as well.

Thanks,

JBB

IET Mentoring Service

Posted by sincy on Mar 8, 2012 4:29 pm

Kingficer,

As an IET mentor I would say that the mentoring service supplied by the IET members is really good. We have all been in the same position as you are now, and we have got a good idea of what you need to do to get to where you want to be. Our role is to try and help you get IEng or CEng registration.

JJB is good that you find your mentor has helped you, that's what we are here for after all.face-icon-small-happy.gif

IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Donald Lane on Mar 9, 2012 4:28 am

Hi sincy,

I am curious, is the mentoring service highly active in your area? If so I assume it has some people driving it, the mentoring service in my area seems to be totally non existent with no interest in providing training or running it.

Kind regards

Donald Lane
Do not confuse activity with achievement

IET Mentoring Service

Posted by sincy on Mar 12, 2012 2:19 pm

Donald,

I will be honest, I do not know how active the mentoring service is, but i do know when i attend the training courses for mentors there is always a resonable attendance. also my company helps with mentors and mantee alike. they try to put them together when possible, and also the IET are usually pretty good in finding you a mentor if you request one.

I am based in Glasgow, and the IET have a base here maybe that helps.

Try contacting the IET and asking them if there are mentors in your area, and what support they can offer. the IET have coordinators running the scheme, and they are the drivers, but it takes the mentor to really want to help to make the scheme work.

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Mark Dunn on Dec 12, 2018 5:05 am

Nicky Tooley:
Hi Bryan

Thank you for your post about the Mentoring service.

I'm Nicky Tooley, i'm responsible for the voluntary Mentoring service within the IET.

If you have any questions then please do not hesitate in emailing me on the following email address - mentoring@theiet.org

Kind regards

Nicky Tooley

 

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Mark Dunn on Dec 12, 2018 5:11 am

I could do with making use of the mentoring Service.  I dont feel I am making the best use of my IEng and FInstLM status and have started to submit a few job applications over the past few months.  None have got me through to the interview stage which has knocked my confidence a litte.

It would be very helpful to have someone impartial cast their eye over my CV and Linedin page and help me identify where I am going wrong.  

http://linkedin.com/in/mark-dunn-ieng-finstlm-5b3960136

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Kathryn Bain on Dec 12, 2018 9:59 am

Hi Mark,

Unfortunately, the Mentoring service is only able to provide a mentor to help with professional registration.

Regards,

Kathryn
Kathryn Bain, Senior Product Advisor (Initial Professional Development and Mentoring), The Institution of Engineering & Technology, (IET Staff) Any views are my own views and do not necessarily represent those of the IET

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Andy Millar on Dec 12, 2018 10:12 am

However, it might still be worth contacting a Mentor. The requirements of UKSpec (for prospective CEng in your case) are remarkably smiley similar to the requirements that most employers are looking for in their candidates.

I think most of us would be happy to give an independent view of your experience. With absolutely no promises of course, and we can each only give a personal view of how it fits into any particular industry (rather than UKSpec generally), but it may be helpful - just sitting down with another experienced engineers from outside your field can give a different perspective. But as Kathryn says, do be prepared for the fact the Mentor training is heavily geared around preparation for registration.

https://www.theiet.org/membership/career/mentoring/iservice/applymentor/index.cfm

Good luck,

Andy
Andy Millar CEng CMgr IET Mentor / IET PRA uk.linkedin.com/in/millarandy

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Barry Brooks on Dec 13, 2018 11:27 am

Dear Kathryn

Did you see my response about the Mentoring Service in the Volunteer Mentor thread yesterday?

Regards
Barry
BPS Brooks BSc(Eng) CEng FIET FCGI IET Past-President (IET President 2013-14)

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Roy Bowdler on Dec 13, 2018 3:47 pm

Mark, I looked at your profile and in my opinion there is nothing wrong with you, or your credentials for a role that potentially uses your attributes. However, I couldn’t pretend to have any more than a reasonable appreciation of your area of work, rather than any in-depth personal experience. Someone with that experience may have a more critical eye.

It seems that unfortunately you have just been out-competed for the roles that you have sought. I don’t know if these have been ideally aligned to your obvious strengths and a forum like this is a public space, so we can’t explore that in detail. It may be that supply currently exceeds demand for the more specialised skills that you have developed? You clearly have a solid capability to manage in a technical or non-technical environment, there are very many employers that highly value an armed services management background.  
Most of us have probably experienced frustration and disappointment at some time and I could draw many analogies between employment, romantic relationships or other aspects of life where chance is a factor. If you are not being interviewed, it may be possible to analyse the reasons and ensure that the aspects of your story that most closely align with the prospective employer’s needs are being emphasised. However, these needs are often opaque and rejection decisions can be made on arbitrary subjective grounds, including ones of dubious legality. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!  On the occasions over the years when I have been successful in getting onto a final interview shortlist, there was nothing in my story that provoked enough of a negative reaction to knock me out of contention, the interview decides whether or not both parties like each other enough. Sometimes they liked me better and sometimes someone else.  

If you emphasise specialism, then you can only compete in that niche market against others with similar experience. This may be a very “small world”, where everyone in it is known to each other. If you look more broadly and emphasise more general organisational skills, then the potential market is much larger and perhaps more open?

I’m rather more ambivalent than Andy about UK-SPEC, taking a holistic view, not just of the three category definitions and divisions, but also the context of how the system is working, its aims and values. It seems to me unlikely that registration category is a relevant factor here, unless another category is being asked for or implicitly expected, which might catch you in the first "administrative" filter. You need if possible to tease out if any such issues exist and not become discouraged or angry about it.

There might be some age discrimination in play? Although technically illegal, it can be almost impossible to prove. It is after all reasonable for an employer to target an age group with objective justification. Requiring a degree, for example tends to disadvantage older people, so unless the requirement is directly relevant to performance in the role, it may be questionable.  There are many other forms of subtle negative stereotyping, which could be applied and magnified, especially where applicant numbers have to be whittled down.       

I hope that by drawing attention to your situation in these forums, somebody knows somebody, who knows somebody who is looking for someone like you and contacts you privately.  

There have been an number of “career advice” questions in the forums recently, which don’t necessarily fit into the standard solutions that we currently provide. If this is something that our members need more of, then perhaps we should consider how we might enable this?

 

 

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Alasdair Anderson on Dec 13, 2018 4:17 pm

Roy Bowdler:
I’m rather more ambivalent than Andy about UK-SPEC 
Roy,
I must say a rather side with you there, though with a big BUT....
The contents of UK-Spec are very generic and what employers are looking for is somewhat more specific. However the techniques used to present your experience to show how you meet UK-Spec are very similar to the techniques you would use to show how you have the experience and capabilities that the employer is seeking (and are often the same examples). I suspect that this is what Andy was alluding to.
The question of how we could enable "career advice" is tricky, as I could see the forum being inundated by questions. Maybe we can chat about that in a break during the Registration and Standards workshop next week.
Alasdair

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Mark Dunn on Dec 14, 2018 7:27 am

Guys, thankyou for taking the time to review my profile and respond with some helpful advice. It really is very appreciated.

Best regards
Mark Dunn

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Andy Millar on Dec 15, 2018 4:02 pm

Alasdair Anderson:

I suspect that this is what Andy was alluding to.
Yes, I was smiley So, pragmatically, if an IET Mentor can only discuss UKSpec with a mentee then that can still be very useful for someone in this position.  
Andy Millar CEng CMgr IET Mentor / IET PRA uk.linkedin.com/in/millarandy

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Cheong Tsoi on Mar 11, 2019 7:02 am

Dear Mark,
You are well experienced in Royal Air Force. Well done!
But, I can see your current role is only doing for 1 year and 7 months, and frankly speaking, it is rather short for someone starting his career since 1981!
For me, my current role has been doing for over 5 years. My longest job duration was 10 years. I also have a LinkedIn account, and it is starting to attract job agents to read my profile and giving job opportunity to me only recently. My guess is because of my stable career. What's wrong with your current role? Are you not satisfied on the paid or career advancement? If not, why don't you stay for longer and see if opportunity arising from your current job.
Hope it helps!

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Cheong Tsoi on Mar 11, 2019 7:06 am

Dear Nicky/Kathryn,
I am only an MIET without CEng/IEng. Am I qualified to become an Mentor in IET Mentoring Service? I have over 26 years engineering experience, and with a BEng and an MBA. Thanks.

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Kathryn Bain on Mar 11, 2019 9:22 am

Dear Cheong,

As the IET mentoring service is specific to supporting those through professional registration the mentors for this service must be Professionally Registered, so you would not qualify for this role, however there are other volunteer roles through the IET that would not require professional registration if you want to get involved.  You can find a list of these volunteer roles at: https://www.theiet.org/involved/volunteering-for-the-iet/volunteer-roles/

Regards,

Kathryn

 
Kathryn Bain, Senior Product Advisor (Initial Professional Development and Mentoring), The Institution of Engineering & Technology, (IET Staff) Any views are my own views and do not necessarily represent those of the IET

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Mark Curtis on Mar 12, 2019 3:36 pm

Kathryn Bain:
Hi Mark,

Unfortunately, the Mentoring service is only able to provide a mentor to help with professional registration.

Regards,

Kathryn

On a side note Kathryn - as an IET mentor, my role as you say is in helping members achieve professional registration but I do find it odd that we are not permitted access to resources such as "IET- Registration and Standards" (reserved for PRAs so I understand).

Re: IET Mentoring Service

Posted by Kathryn Bain on Mar 13, 2019 3:30 pm

Mark Curtis:

Kathryn Bain:
Hi Mark,

Unfortunately, the Mentoring service is only able to provide a mentor to help with professional registration.

Regards,

Kathryn

On a side note Kathryn - as an IET mentor, my role as you say is in helping members achieve professional registration but I do find it odd that we are not permitted access to resources such as "IET- Registration and Standards" (reserved for PRAs so I understand).

 

Mark,

There is a separate IET Mentoring community for Mentors who support candidates through the IET Mentoring service - drop the team at: mentoring@theiet.org if you're not already a member and Lucy will check your status and set you up.
Kathryn Bain, Senior Product Advisor (Initial Professional Development and Mentoring), The Institution of Engineering & Technology, (IET Staff) Any views are my own views and do not necessarily represent those of the IET

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