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ELECTRIC CHARGING POINTS ON MOTORWAYS

If we allow fully electric vehicles on our motorways then for sure some of them are going to fail going up a steep hill.  Should the highways agency be planning to install charging points at the bottom of all hills do you think??
  • If they fail going up the hill, they will already be past the charging point if that is at the bottom of the hill - but if they put it part way up, some may not be able to reach it......

    I think the answer is no different from service stations and fuel - don't let your fuel tank (or battery) get so low that you cant reach the next fuel pump (or charging station).
  • England enjoys an image of the realm of electric cars. In our imagination, living in a reality where the number of electric vehicles is counted in the centuries, in England every second vehicle is electric and every street corner has a charging stand. Maybe even some. Because they are so advanced in England that there is clearly competition between charging companies. It's a data-based similarity. England ranks third (after Norway and Germany) in the number of electric vehicle deliveries. And in 2018, it posted a 28% increase in sales.
  • No different to cars running out of petrol up a steep hill is it?
  • Only electric cars.
  • In the UK, with its very high density of traffic flows, the impact of any single vehicle break down on the traffic flow - due to 'running out of energy or fuel' - can be considerable. I would like to popose that all motor vehicles - regrdless of the energy source or fuel used - should employ far more intelligent journey planning and trip computer systems. Increasingly, in our busy daily routines, we are learning to rely on so called intelligent systems and visual aids - such as Satellite Navigation Systems - to look after us and do the planning for us. To this end it would be beneficial if it became normal, by design, for the SAT NAV system, built into so many modern cars, to be integrated into the cars trip computer system to require that a 'journey plan' be entered into the SAT NAV before starting off which would then advise on such things as when and where to stop for fuel or energy 'top ups' both prior to and during each and every journey planned. If properly designed and implemented, such a system could greatly reduce the number of 'unexpected breakdowns' on any journey much to the benefit of all. Clearly, for this scheme to work really effectively, it would be necessary for the location, availability. and even possibly 'forward booking' status of all electric vehicle/hydrogen powered charging points to be updated and added to the SAT NAV data base on a regular basis - by the inclusion of a SIM based mobile phone air interface into every such SAT NAV system, We have all this technology now - why not make use of it?


  • CliveS:

    If we allow fully electric vehicles on our motorways then for sure some of them are going to fail going up a steep hill.  Should the highways agency be planning to install charging points at the bottom of all hills do you think??




     

    What do you mean "If"?  they are already driving up and down our motorways with no restrictions.


    You seem to be under the impression that electric cars have no battery gauges and are liable to suddenly stop half way up a hill, with no warning.  In reality, it's no different to the risk of running out of petrol or diesel half way up a hill - it's only going to happen if the driver fails to check the remaining charge/fuel level from time to time.
  • If the battery car breaks down because the low battery warning is not working properly, it will be no different to the equivalent fault in a diesel or petrol car. The AA or other will tow it to somewhere it can be refueled or recharged, but it is likely to be a far rarer event than a crash.

  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member
    Managing your Low Carbon Vehicle (LCV) 'fuel' in an Electric Vehicle (electrons), Fuel Cell EV or Hydrogen vehicle (H2 and electrons) is no different to managing your LPG, petrol or diesel in vehicles today. Perhaps use the very convenient 'fuel status' indicator, or 'remaining miles to refuel' facility, in the instrument panel to inform when to refuel, take notice of that flashing 'low on fuel' light and buzzer, and use common sense so you don't let your 'tank run dry' - my general rule of thumb, refuel at next opportunity just before tank goes below 1/4 full. Alternatively, like I had on an old motorbike, design LCVs to have a reserve 'fuel' tank that can be switched in manually to get you 20-30 miles to next refill station if you can't manage your primary fuel storage on board.


    The emergency services are now evolving to provide 'electron jerry cans' (battery boost/charge) and 'H2 jerry cans' (H2 boost/charge) to help those stranded in their LCVs on the road side to get to the next refill station.
    https://www.whatcar.com/news/how-car-breakdown-services-are-changing/n19952  

  • Hello everyone, 

    I come from the field of Mechanical Engineering in Automotive and Automation. 

    I share with community members about car maintenance and cost-effectiveness and it is: 

    This is essentially a technological revolution because an electric motor provides some distinct advantages over an internal combustion engine. First, it has far fewer moving parts - only about 20 versus about 200 in a standard engine. It does not depend on liquids - not propulsion (fuel), no shielding (oil), and since it is not based on combustion, nor for cooling. It is so quiet that electric models are already selling artificial noise to prevent accidents. An electric motor does not need a transmission system ("chalk"), it accelerates and decelerates faster and requires at least treatments, and of course, it saves significantly on energy costs. However, the electric car revolution is not only about technological innovation. This is a tectonic shift in economic and even political terms. for example, China is using the electric vehicle as a means of gaining significant market share in the global automotive market, with the aim of ousting European and Japanese manufacturers from its control - somewhat like it has done in the field of consumer electronics. European countries encourage the development of electric vehicles to reduce pollutant emissions, while Israel encourages its development to reduce its dependence on oil, partly because of geopolitical reasons in the Middle East context.

  • Benyamin Davodian:

    . . .  In our imagination, living in a reality where the number of electric vehicles is counted in the centuries, in England every second vehicle is electric and every street corner has a charging stand. . . .




    We don't have a filling station on every street corner, but for years petrol and diesel vehicles have managed without  them.