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I have been working in some holiday chalets today on a chalet park by the sea.
One chalet had a lovely new R.C.B.O. consumer unit in it. Beautifully installed. Very neat.
Another had a new split load consumer unit installed in it. Very nicely installed.
But why were they both a waste of money?
Z.
- Andy.
AJJewsbury:
No discrimination with the 30mA RCD in the supply (now required by 708.415.1)?
- Andy.
These are big permanent garden sheds. Does that reg. apply Andy? Caravan/Camping Parks and Similar Locations.
Z.
Zoomup:AJJewsbury:
No discrimination with the 30mA RCD in the supply (now required by 708.415.1)?
- Andy.These are big permanent garden sheds. Does that reg. apply Andy? Caravan/Camping Parks and Similar Locations.
Z.
They sounded like "residential park homes" to me... (or at least something that was more like a residential park home than an ordinary building). I haven't seen them of course, so could well be wrong. It was only a guess.
- Andy.
Or maybe given the sort of jobs you find to post here , maybe no eaerthing....
Z.
AJJewsbury:Zoomup:AJJewsbury:
No discrimination with the 30mA RCD in the supply (now required by 708.415.1)?
- Andy.These are big permanent garden sheds. Does that reg. apply Andy? Caravan/Camping Parks and Similar Locations.
Z.They sounded like "residential park homes" to me... (or at least something that was more like a residential park home than an ordinary building). I haven't seen them of course, so could well be wrong. It was only a guess.
- Andy.
Having just looked up the definition of "residential park home" in B.S. 7671, I would say that the chalets are NOT to be bound by section 708 as they are permanent buildings with no wheels and are NOT a "factory produced relocatable dwelling." They are more like small permanent bungalows.
Z.
I would say that the chalets are NOT to be bound by section 708 as they are permanent buildings with no wheels and are NOT a "factory produced relocatable dwelling." They are more like small permanent bungalows.
What does their planning consent allow? If only say 10 months of the year, to me they are not permanent.
Regards
BOD
perspicacious:
holiday chalets today on a chalet park by the sea.
I would say that the chalets are NOT to be bound by section 708 as they are permanent buildings with no wheels and are NOT a "factory produced relocatable dwelling." They are more like small permanent bungalows.
What does their planning consent allow? If only say 10 months of the year, to me they are not permanent.
Regards
BOD
Some have been there unmoved since the late 50s. They are permanent. Their occupation does not enter into the definition. They were built on site and not transported in as a manufactured unit.
EDIT. Add. Two reasons why they can not be defined as relocatable units.
1. Many are old and would fall to pieces.
2. They can not be moved as the road is too small to remove them by lorry. It is just too narrow. They are there for good.
Z.
four year and ten year rules and a certificates of lawfulness etc.
Anything from 2011 or earlier is certainly in the clear, and quite likely anything from before 2017 if it is residential.
Mike.
I didn't realise that this was about winning and losing David.............
On the subject of losing, have you lost Reg 115.1? I only have my yellow to hand so the number may have changed in the blue..............
Regards
BOD
davezawadi (David Stone):
BOD, I think you are being BAD again. Planning consent has no part in BS7671. What is the regulation reference? You are making a rather tenuous legal comment, as used by losing sides all the time!
Legislation trumps BS 7671 every time. Legislative provisions trump BS 7671 every time.
Legal definitions are very important ... it's just a pity that the ESQCR doesn't define "caravan" at all, for example.
gkenyon:
Legal definitions are very important ... it's just a pity that the ESQCR doesn't define "caravan" at all, for example.
Yes, but "caravan" is defined elsewhere in legislation.
I mentioned it in this thread.
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