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Indeed, inside a metal encased piece of equipment, if all the wiring is insulated and sheathed, then the metallic case need not be earthed.
This might explain why I found no earthing on an old converted metallic cased outdoor [coach style] light (a large one) or its beefy cast iron/steel bracket through which the cable ran, as all the cable to the light and inside it was insulated and sheathed with no unprotected conductors on show.
It does appear to be a compliant install with regard to BS7671 and therefore is safe for continued use, so adding the earth (as I initially wondered given all the conductive metal etc) would have been uneccessary.
Any other views/comments from experience appreciated on the above observations ?
e.g. extract from
This is a conductive part of equipment which can be touched and isn’t normally live, though it may become live under fault conditions.
In order for the tray/ladder to be an exposed-conductive-part, and therefore require earthing, it must be used as a
protective conductor as per the requirements of BS 7671:2008 Regulation 543.2.1.
If the tray/ladder is carrying sheathed and/or armoured cables (which it most likely will be) then the nature of that type of cabling suggests that the tray/ladder won’t require earthing as the cable has adequate mechanical protection i.e. more than just basic insulation. This meets the requirement of Regulation 418.104.22.168 and therefore the tray/ladder doesn’t need earthing."
Realistically it cannot fill with water.
That professional elec extract caused me to pause too, with its "... in order for a tray/ladder* to be an exposed conductive part...it must be used as a protective conductor..." until I went back to read the Regs.
*or any metallic containment/casing one could conclude
Cheers. Thanks for the comments.
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Can anyone else see it ? Has it been deleted since ?
Perhaps John Peckham will repost if the 'delete' was made in error ?!